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Um. Er... yeah, so this whole thread at fandom_wank (which almost never bothers me, and still hasn't, really) is about... um... how/why people don't like Luna. O_o Um. I guess, y'know, I get it. On the one hand, I guess it's weird these people are in fandom? But, I mean, a) people are dorky/weird/fannish/crazy-special/etc in totally diametrically different ways, I guess, as we all knew; b) well, I know Luna (and, er, myself) are likely to be kind of annoying to people who're totally rationalist/100% sane/concrete-minded. So. It's just. That I haven't *seen* that particular pov before? Even though it makes sense. In a way it's refreshing from all the overwhelming 'omg we LURV Luna' around in fandom, when I *KNOW* girls like her wouldn't actually be omg-bffs with 95% of the people going on about how awesome she is; I mean, it's been my observation that in real life, yeah, people just sort of let the quiet/introverted weird girl who says disturbing/odd/rambly things alone, mostly, unless by some chance they get to know her and/or spend time with her by no real choice of their own (like the Trio did). No one wishes her harm (not even on fandom_wank), and no one seems to be too willing to say 'yeah, I'd steal her shoes too', but generally, in reality, I think it's honest to say most people don't make that much of an effort, enough to see the 'bright side' of [a girl like] Luna.


Still. It's like, "... oh." And I mean, I'm not obviously crazy or anything, nor do I spout 'nonsense' theories, etc, which is the apparent deal-breaker for these posters. But. I do act a lot like her in most other ways, and she *is* a stereotype (ie, she's an exaggeration, especially in books 6-7). It's just kind of like with my last post-- I guess people I don't talk to much sort of decide I'm 'weird' or decide to avoid me since I'm avoiding them, or some combination of the two.

Anyway, food for thought. Also, I'm so gonna finish my DE!Draco novella for Christmas break just to show people that you can have a kickass/realistic Draco without, um, making him insist on continuing the whole Malfoy clan with babiez, etc. The whole epilogue-compliant... thing annoys me, but mostly in the context of H/D and what H/D writers do in reaction ('cause in my head, it doesn't bother me if it *only* exists in canon!verse to make canon!Harry-- who is, well, not gay and who doesn't like Luna like that-- happy). Well, the fanon!epilogue (and post-epilogue) annoys me, even just as a concept. I think even I'm incapable of writing epi-compliant things I'd *like*. I think the major reason I dislike the fanon use of the epilogue is that it generally misses the whole *point* of the epilogue (in my mind), which is that it exists to make Harry happy, and messing with it therefore messes with its raison d'etre. Like, there's no point if Harry happy with someone else, or if he's not really happy, or he'll stop being happy for any reason. I mean, no point on some sort of meta level of existence. *hands* I know it's irrational, but the epi is irrational and wrong itself *unless* it's there for gratuitous emotional gratification, so I figure you either indulge it the way it's intended or kindly ignore it. Unless you're writing a fic specifically dealing with angst/issues about infidelity/sexuality and give Ginny equal time, etc. Anyway.

So. I need to purge it and write something post-Hogwarts for my own satisfaction.

Currently fighting off a major attack of the ST:XI Kirk/Spock variety. I... they... I blame the hothothot hatesexy vids. >___>;;

Date: 2009-12-01 03:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com
Can't help you there. I think she would be totally annoying. Not because she's not 100% rational but because the 100% irrational seems like an act that would wear thin really quickly. She doesn't seem weird to me so much as trying very hard to be weird so everybody gets how weird she is and gives her attention for that. (Which is probably why she doesn't remind me of you at all!) If she came across to me as just generally having oddball ideas or things to say she wouldn't bother me, but she doesn't usually seem like she's trying to communicate so much as perform. So she seems fake to me.

Like, there's no point if Harry happy with someone else, or if he's not really happy, or he'll stop being happy for any reason. I mean, no point on some sort of meta level of existence. *hands* I know it's irrational, but the epi is irrational and wrong itself *unless* it's there for gratuitous emotional gratification, so I figure you either indulge it the way it's intended or kindly ignore it. Unless you're writing a fic specifically dealing with angst/issues about infidelity/sexuality and give Ginny equal time, etc.

LOL! Wait, why would it be wrong to use the epilogue but say Harry isn't happy unless you're dealing with angst/issues about infidelity/sexuality and giving Ginny equal time? I mean, I can see why a good writer might want to do that, but that's the old question of slash not necessarily caring much about canon couples to begin with, right?

Date: 2009-12-01 11:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] godspoodle.livejournal.com
Well, yeah, the 100% is the 'exaggeration' part. I never particularly omg-lurved Luna, and I definitely see our (many?) points of divergence, but I was a lot like that around 9-13 years old or so, or I would've been if I bothered talking to most people, I guess; I dunno. I think it's the combination of serious social awkwardness & daydreaminess in the context of 'research' and being 'serious'. Most day-dreamy girls are just 'lalala sparkles' (ie, not even fake!cerebral), and most antisocial/studious girls (in literature) aren't very creative/day-dreamy. It's for the reason of this (apparently unusual) combination that I can't help identifying with Luna even if on some level, she annoys me too (and if I had to pick an HP-centric INFP archetype, I'm probably closer to Remus... I guess... sort of in between though). Anyway, I get the fakeness too; that's what I meant by stereotype/exaggeration-- I mean, no one is *that* on all the time (or... I hope not). It's definitely a character written by someone who just doesn't *get* people like that. Still, I thought the comments were... enlightening. :/


Haha, well, I feel like if you don't care about canon couples, why use the epilogue at all? It's not like it's really part of the main narrative or it's helpful to slashers in any way, shape or form. I get that it's irrational to just... be irritated ('cause obviously no one has to care about Harry's canon!happiness), but just... why bother? I feel that people sort of pick apart the epi almost like pulling wings off flies. I mean, yeah they're annoying, but also helpless and not really putting up a fight. :/ The epi's just sort of there as a cap on canon, and I feel almost like if you wanna write normal slash fic, you should just... unscrew the cap. Say it's a Coke cap. Don't like, make a mockery of the cap and melt it and then like, offer it to the gods of Pepsi before screwing it back on. Just... take it off. Or something. ...^^;;

Date: 2009-12-02 01:04 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com
I should say I don't hate Luna all the time or anything. There's times where I really like her. I especially like her when she unexpectedly says something snarky and on point.

You know, with the epilogue, I'll bet it's a case of people wishing they could ignore the epilogue but can't? Like I know sometimes people wish they could just forget stuff in canon but on some level they feel like it's real and so they have to unwrite it before they can write their own stuff. I wonder if that's why so many people start from that--like, they really want to re-write the epilogue so they can't forget it happened?

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